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January 25, 2010, 12:06:48 PM
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Ok I was reading this RV and apparently it has been confirmed by brian, but I can't find any news article related to it, which is weird because it should  be everywhere being about MM, but I don't understand if it was Madelaine or her parents who were seen with RM ?? anyways if it was Madelaine it would be scary. can somebody look it up??
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January 25, 2010, 02:28:15 PM
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I think brian inferred on the actual case page that this was not a dream per se but more a tip off - i could be wrong here.

Anyway a few weeks back there was another reference to facebook - perhaps someone can include that link as i have a few minutes only.  It said something about they are communicating via facebook - i felt it related to Mccann case although not sure anyone else picked up on that? 

i thought it might be perhaps tapas friend who flew out recently to lisbon to be with kate mccann .. purely cause they were mentioned in same week in brians dreams...

so a potential picture with murat and mccann in a background?

Is he thinking gerry or mm?

Some say gerry and murat have met before but irrespective this reference sounds like holiday pictures .. scenic view of a portugese holiday or party?   I mean people usually share holiday snaps or party shots on facebook right?

If a typical couple one usually bothers to take pictures of boyfriend husband alone because of some scenic backdrop.. i.e. stand in front of the view so i can take a picture (of the view)...

So using a bit of lateral thinking - i deduce it was probably scenic scene such as beach or playground or possibly hotel or restaurant?    As all eyes were out after abduction it has to have occurred prior to abduction.. whatever the picture, it indicates that murat and mccanns had contact more than they led us to believe so it means some kind of deception sadly on both sides.. if true.   

I wonder if brian has seen the photo in question?

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January 25, 2010, 04:41:05 PM
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I dunno I think brian should answer the question to wether the pic was MM and RM or her parents and him, and to the idea that it was around the abduction's day, I don't think so, I think it was recently, but oh well I'm not the expert. why doesn't brian hang around the site anymore? the site is getting lazy, n there r a lot of ghosts around here, oh well maybe he is busy n im making false assumptions here :P
have a nice day :)
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January 25, 2010, 06:53:07 PM
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In case anyone is wondering, above refers to new DD7885 – “photo of Robert Murat and McCann posted o(n) Facebook, they did not even know it was them“

Brian adds: …”was taken by a Portuguese woman who was just taking a picture of her husband. When i(t) was posted on the web, someone noticed it and it was pulled down. This DD may not be from my ‘usual source’ (Universal conscious) and that’s all I should say”

It appears that Brian may have been tipped-off about this, going by what he adds above.
I have not been in contact with Brian for quite some time & him saying ‘that’s all I should say’ I don’t think he can be asked more about it, as if he has been told to keep something confidential, he will.

Brian has mentioned before that the McCann’s knew Murat before MM’s abduction & Brian had posted a video clip of Gerry being questioned by a reporter if he knew Murat before & Gerry answers very abruptly that he is not going to answer that.

So unfortunately, Brian’s DD7885, looks like it is something impossible for us to research.

Re the mention of another DD of Brians mentioning communication by Face Book, I think I remember it was more terrorist related, but I'll try to find that DD.

Brian has a lot of terrorist-related DDs for some months now re American Airlines flights etc/attacks on U.S. soil - very scary.
I wasnt aware until my father told me yesterday that there is a higher terrorist alert at the moment, so perhaps authorities do read into Brian's site more than we think.
Not sure, but as Brian has mention false flag attacks as well, I have a feeling this terrorist attack will be blamed onto Iran, so that they have an excuse to have a go at them.
One of his DDs says that there will be 5-6 ships sitting at Larnaca, Cyprus, to avoid fall-out. Which is worrying. Going by the star of David on that DD it means Israel is involved.
Brian's come up with a lot of worrying DDs lately, more earthquakes etc as well & remember that Psychic Zac said this year will be a very bumpy year.

But I wont go on about it here, as this forum's for Madeleine.
Poor sweetie, hope she's ok.



 
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January 25, 2010, 07:44:07 PM
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If this is the DD that was thought of …  DD7848  10-1-10 - “They are using code on Facebook to communicate”   … it seems it doesn’t give any clues to what it may link to.

Sometimes Brian’s DDs link to the immediate previously posted DD & looking at the one before it mentions ‘watch and see Monday Jan 11th? American News’. Going by the drawing, I thought that it may link to another of Brian’s DDs saying that the tallest building in the world (Dubai) is supposedly going to be hit by 3 planes as a terrorist attack, but being a diversion for something else, he mentioned.
Of course I could be wrong linking those DDs.
So the code on FB to communicate DD could be anything.
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January 27, 2010, 12:02:29 PM
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Hello Z,

The reason I thought DD7848 might relate to MM is because on same date (10th jan) he had dd7850.   (see below).   Maybe pages got mixed up as he numbered them?  I should have been clearer in my previous posting.. what do you think now that you learn they are on the same page...

do you still think not related?  I don't know just thought it is more than possible.

e.g.
DD7850
"fione payne just send the package to sky, 224-11-9-"
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January 27, 2010, 05:40:36 PM
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Thanks CL, I see what you mean. The DD that I mentioned was actually the night befores dream (9th). 

And the ‘Fiona Payne just send the package to sky, 224-11-9’  DD7850, is the night of 10th Jan’s dreams. Same date as the ‘They are using code on Facebook to communicate’ DD7848.
There is only 1 other dream on the night of 10th Jan which is re body of Jesus found etc.

So yes, perhaps DD7848 & DD7850 could link. I don’t think I’ve seen Brian mention Face Book before, so the more recent DD7885 mentioning McCann/Murat photo on Facebook could all link, although Brian says that DD did not come from Universal conscious.

The Fiona Payne DD is quite puzzling as Brian says ‘just send’  & the date he wrote being 22 or 24-11-9. I’m wondering, does she know something & holding back.

I may try to get a quick chat with him to see if he remembers anything about DD7848 & DD7850, but I doubt he will remember that far back & sounds trivial compared to his many terrorist & plane-related DDs etc etc.
I can try to ask re the other DD7885, if ref to McCann is one of the parents or MM photographed with RM.
The problem with chatting to Brian is I have to be awake about 2-3am & is hard when I have to sleep & get up early.

There are another 2 DDs that I've found that are bothering me as well, that may link to McCann-related things, or maybe just coincidence, so I will try to dig into that too & post.


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January 27, 2010, 06:38:05 PM
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HI Z, just like my stab into 'tenuous connections' you must post those that you noticed just in case ..no?


Meanwhile, another thing, whilst you are on the phone to brian (if you stay up that late ) I understand it is hard with time zone. 
but if you do reach him ..
please mention the RV request for another boy lost in portugal, faro. but a number of years ago.

His name is:

RENE HASSE

It seems the parents got no help whatsoever.. .?
it could relate to MM and Joanna as the poster said...- i do feel it needs to be checked out and at very least we can help the family.  Can you ask if he can set up "missing" file for him?

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January 27, 2010, 07:06:51 PM
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Hi CL
Re Renè Hasèe, that was the 1st thing I done earlier, but wrote to Brian as I'm off to bed soon & he's already replied saying that he will do DD/RV, so he will automatically create a page for Renè. So we can look out in the next couple of days for it.

Yes, I will post info on the 2 DDs which may link to McCann's, but they may just be a coincidence. The date Brian mentioned on one has passed by anyway.

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January 27, 2010, 07:49:40 PM
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HI Z, one more, i thought to quickly gather and date  all these dd's together would help.

With these in mind, then consider the coincidence of Fiona Payne popping up in the press after years of absence.. 4 days after the dd...

so here in order...

DD7841 - "Kate, they are following you, trent 44, danger they want an accident to happen, 282.10 01159333000 411593, wrong area, cancelled, they have papers"

10th Jan, published 11th Jan 2010
DD7848 - "They are using code on Facebook to communicate"

10th Jan, published 11th Jan 2010
DD7850 - "fione payne just send the package to sky, 224-11-9-"

22nd Jan published 23rd Jan 2010
DD7885 - "photo of Robert Murat and McCann posted o Facebook, they did not even know it was them"


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Meanwhile in the press:

Kate McCann (L) and her friend Fiona Payne arrive at a court hearing in Lisbon January 14, 2010. The McCanns are in Lisbon to attend a trial about a book written by former police inspector Goncalo Amaral on the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine, which occurred three years ago. The book has been banned in Portugal.



SYNOPSIS OF TRIAL

Day 3: Lisbon, Portugal, at the McCanns’ v Amaral libel trial
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Day 3 in Lisbon, Portugal, at the McCanns’ v Amaral libel trial. Courtesy of Jon di Paolo’s tweets:
9:23: Good morning. We’re outside the courthouse for the third day of the McCann libel trial.
9:26: We’ve had rain every day so far – but this morning the sun has come up and cast a rainbow over the court building. A good omen for someone?
9:35: Cameras are out in force again outside the court today – interest in the trial shows no sign of waning.
9:53: Kate McCann has arrived at court. She stopped briefly outside to speak to the waiting press pack.
9:53: Mrs McCann said she was still confident of winning the case.
9:56: Kate McCann: there were mistakes made in the investigation but we need to look forward really.
9:58: Kate McCann: i believe this was the right course of action. i have confidence in the Portuguese justice system.
9:59: Kate McCann: we need to find Madeleine. That’s why we’re here.
10:18: We’re back in court and proceedings are under way. Kate McCann is here, but Gerry has flown back to the UK.
10:20: Mrs McCann is sitting on the front bench of the public seating with Fiona Payne, a close friend and member of the so-called ‘Tapas Seven’.
10:21: There are far fewer people in the court today. Journalists, campaigners and members of the public packed the benches for the past two days.
10:24: There are only eight or so people other than Mrs McCann, Mrs Payne and the McCanns’ translators.
10:24: Another notable absentee is Gonçalo Amaral, the former policeman whose controversial book sparked the libel action.
10:32: The first witness is being called – Antonio Paulo Santos.
10:36: Mr Santos is a lawyer and general manager for the video production association, a nationwide industry body,
10:38: He is also an ex-investigator for Portuguese police, making him a colleague of Mr Amaral’s, although they worked in different departments.
10:38: Mr Amaral has arrived in court and has taken a seat in between two lawyers.
10:39: Mr Santos tells the court he considers himself an acquaintance of Mr Amaral’s.
10:42: The judge has stressed that this hearing is separate to the action being brought by the McCanns for £1m in damages.
10:44: She stresses that this trial is solely about the publication and distribution of the book and the documentary upon which it was based.
10:51: Mr Santos is discussing the details of the contract between Mr Amaral and the makers of the documentary.
10:52: Mr Santos: I read Mr Amaral’s book and watched the documentary on television.
10:53: Mr Santos: Mr Amaral never accused the McCanns of guilt, either in the book or the documentary..
10:57: Mr Santos: As a former policeman, I think Mr Amaral’s conclusions are based on the evidence gathered during the official investigation.
10:58: Mr Santos: Mr Amaral’s personal honour prevented him from publishing the book before his retirement from the police force.
11:00: The contract between the documentary maker, VC Films, and Mr Amaral was signed in March 2008.
11:02: Mr Santos: While Mr Amaral was in charge of the investigation he came under attack from sections of the British media.
11:03: Mr Santos is becoming quite impassioned and raising his voice as he gives his testimony.
11:04: Mr Santos: Sections of the British media portrayed Mr Amaral as an alcoholic.
11:04: Mr Santos: Mr Amaral was given no support by his superiors in the Portuguese police.
11:05: Mr Santos: Mr Amaral was pursuing the truth, and only the truth, no matter what conclusions it led to.
11:06: Mr Santos: Mr Amaral decided to publish the book to clear his professional reputation.
11:08: Mr Santos: I am a father too. God prevent that I ever lose any of my children. I understand the pain felt by the McCanns.
11:08: Mr Santos: I don’t think the book or the documentary increased the pain felt by Madeleine’s parents.
11:09: Mr Santos: There is no greater pain than losing a child.
11:10: Mr Santos: If there is evidence that Madeleine has been seen, then the investigation will be re-opened.
11:11: Mr Santos: But up to now, none of the information published by the media has been strong enough to make the police re-open the case.
11:14: Mr Santos: The facts of the investigation can be found on the internet and are available to everyone.
11:17: Mr Santos: Pirate copies of the documentary based on Mr Amaral’s book were put on the internet and a copyright complaint was made to police.
11:25: The McCanns’ lawyer, Isabel Duarte, asks Mr Santos if he remembers the colour of the first page of the police investigation file.
11:25: Mr Santos says he doesn’t remember. Ms Duarte says she finds this strange.
11:30: The judge is sitting slumped in her chair, her chin resting on one hand as she listens to the exchanges between Ms Duarte and Mr Santos.
11:37: Mr Amaral has got up and left the courtroom without any explanation.
11:45: Mr Amaral has left the court building through the back entrance.
11:47: Carlos Coelho da Silva, TV director at VC Films, the production company behind the film based on the Amaral book, has taken the stand.
11:48: Mr da Silva says he has a professional relationship with Mr Amaral.
11:49: Mr da Silva: We reconstructed some scenes in order to facilitate the understanding of the events surrounding Madeleine’s disappearance.
11:54: Mr da Silva: It was crucial that Mr Amaral was involved in the production of the documentary.
11:56: Mr da Silva: Mr Amaral’s theory is that the McCanns hid Madeleine’s body.
11:57: Mr da Silva appears uncomfortable under the line of questioning he is facing.
11:59: Mr da Silva: The documentary is based on the book. I didn’t add anything else.
12:02: Mr da Silva: When we consider making a new film we think in terms of profits, as we are a commercial company.
12:07: Mr da Silva: When we carried out a reconstruction I realised Mr Amaral’s frustration at the McCanns’ account of Madeleine’s disappearance.
12:17: Mr da Silva: In my opinion, the documentary does not provide the last word on the case. Its conclusion calls for further investigation.
12:23: Isabel Duarte asks Mr da Silva whether he has seen the official case files. He says no.
12:23: Ms Duarte, the McCanns’ top lawyer, then asks how Mr da Silva can say Mr Amaral’s book was based on the case, if he hasn’t read the file.
12:29: Isabel Duarte: Why didn’t you include the public attorney’s verdict that the conclusions arrived at by the investigators were incorrect?
12:29: Mr da Silva: Because I was telling a story.
12:31: Mr da Silva: Because I was telling a story.
12:32: Mr da Silva has finished giving evidence and left the courtroom.
12:35: Proceedings are breaking up for lunch.
1:33: Kate McCann outside court: it has been shown again that there is no evidence to support Amaral’s claims.
1:34: Kate McCann says having her friend Fiona Payne here has been a big support.
1:36: Isabel Duarte: we knew we would open a Pandora’s Box and that we had to face the enemy.
1:37: Isabel Duarte: the Amaral side is trying to do in civil court what it could not do in criminal court.
1:39: There will be a further hearing in this case on February 10 when two more witnesses are being called.
1:43: Amaral says that if he loses this case he will appeal to the Supreme Court and the European court of human rights.
1:49: Amaral has denied a report that he swore when speaking about the McCanns yesterday.
2:54: The court has re-started for the afternoon session – but Gonçalo Amaral, Kate McCann and Fiona Payne are all absent.
2:58: The McCanns’ senior lawyer, Isabel Duarte, said during the lunchtime break that this is only the first part of the injunction process.
2:58: This week’s hearings are only to decide whether the temporary injunction should be sustained, ahead of a main trial for the full injunction.
2:59: The judge may make a decision after hearing the two extra witnesses on February 10, or she may take more time to consider her verdict.
2:59: The final verdict in this preliminary hearing will be released to the lawyers on each side but will not be made public.
3:01: However, it should be easy to tell who has won – by seeing whether Mr Amaral’s book goes back on sale.
3:01: Ms Duarte also said she has made an official complaint to the police about Mr Amaral, alleging that he has abused the legal aid system.
3:17: Kate McCann and Fiona Payne have returned to the courtroom and resumed their positions on the bench at the front of the public seating.
3:23: Luis Cunha Velho, from Portugal’s biggest TV channel, TVI, has taken the witness stand.
3:24: Mr Velho: The amount of people who saw the documentary based on the book was far smaller than the audience for the McCanns’ Oprah interview.
3:26: Isabel Duarte (McCann lawyer): How many people in Portugal saw the Oprah interview with the McCanns?
3:29: Mr Velho: Not very many people saw the Oprah interview because it was broadcast on cable television.
3:29: Duarte: Did you know that the documentary was broadcast on Madeleine’s birthday?
3:29: Mr Velho: No, I didn’t know that.
3:31: Duarte: Did you know the content of the documentary before it was broadcast?
3:34: Velho: No.
3:34: Duarte: Why was your channel interested in the documentary?
3:34: Velho: Because we wanted a documentary about the case.
3:36: Mr Velho’s testimony has ended and he has left the court.
3:36: The next witness to take the stand is Paulo Soares, another executive from TVI.
3:39: Soares: We tried to buy the documentary produced by (British) Channel 4 but were unable to.
3:42: Soares: I received an email from a British production company advising me that they were going to produce another documentary on Madeleine.
3:44: Soares: I took the email in to the usual weekly executive meeting in order to decide whether or not to buy it.
3:45: Soares: I did not know what material the British documentary contained.
3:47: Soares: I heard the McCanns were involved in the production of the documentary.
3:48: Soares: Though there were lots of cameras in the Algarve there was no in-depth analysis of the case.
3:56: Soares: Suddenly, the production firm lost interest in selling the documentary, because the McCanns didn’t want it broadcast on our channel.
3:59: Soares: Channel 4 bought the rights to the documentary, which covered its broadcast in Portugal.
4:01: Soares: The deal with Channel 4 would have restricted the amount of time available for us to broadcast the documentary.
4:01: Soares: That’s why we chose the Portuguese documentary instead.
4:03: Soares: We had allocated a specific time slot to broadcast a documentary about Madeleine – whether it was the British or Portuguese version.
4:05: Soares: The marketing and communication plan was unaffected by the version chosen.
4:26: The McCanns’ lawyer, Isabel Duarte, is cross-examining Mr Soares on the subject of the channel’s decision-making.
4:47: Proceedings have been put on hold for a short break.
4:58: Kate McCann has left court. She said she believes in Portuguese justice and these proceedings will go a long way to help find Madeleine.
5:21: We’re back in court and Ana Teixera, international programming director for TVI, is the next witness to take the stand.
5:23: She tells the court that the channel’s general programme director had wanted to buy the Channel 4 documentary on the McCanns.
5:26: Teixera: They signed the deal to screen the Channel 4 documentary, but a time slot was not assigned. It was pencilled in for 9.15pm.
6:00: Teixera: A few days later we received a call from Channel 4 saying the documentary was not to be sold to TVI because the McCanns opposed it.
6:04: Teixera: We requested via their lawyer that the McCanns take into consideration the fact that TVI is Portugal’s biggest broadcaster.
6:06: Teixera: We then acknowledged that another Portuguese channel, SIC, was going to broadcast the documentary.
6:06: TVI tried to stop the broadcast by SIC but their attempt was rebuffed by a court.
6:08: Teixera: All this means that TVI did everything it could to broadcast the documentary.
6:10: Teixera: There are three main reasons to broadcast both documentaries.
6:13: Teixera: Firstly, audiences; secondly, to get two versions of the case; thirdly, to prevent rival channel SIC getting the audience share.
6:13: Proceedings are finished and will start again on the 10th of February.
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